These are very nice joggers but quite long on me (5’4”). Fortunately they are joggers so i can still wear them they just bunch up a little at my ankle. I usually wear an XL (165) and were a little big but I think the L might have been too small. Really like the fabric, heavier than expected. Will be great for fall. Would buy again. The lava charcoal is very flattering and khaki is a true khaki color.